I want to preface this by saying these are the suggestions and not instructions you have to follow. I know you are an artist first and love your work, so please don't take this as me bashing what you already created.
I've not yet played the v0.2.2, but did play the v0.2.1. The platforming feels a bit... wack. I think you simply add upwards momentum to the character when she jumps, but that means that as soon as she hits a ceiling she drops like a rock. It would be better if she stuck to the ceiling for however long it takes for her to reach the top of the jump ark, and then start gaining downward momentum, all while still being able to move left or right. Also not sure if you have a cap on the downwards momentum or not, but you should. And I'm also not sure if you have coyote time (a short period of time after walking (without jumping) off the ground when the jump is still usable), but even if you do it feels very short. And so the character feels like she's slipping off the edges. Which feels especially bad with one hit kill spikes everywhere. You should probably remove those, or at least make the "teleport to safety" animation faster.
I really love what you did already. My own projects never reached even this far, so the shear fact that you have a somewhat playable build of the game is a huge accomplishment! Good luck on creating more!
Thanks for the feedback! In general, I'm planning a pass for all physics behaviors and overall platforming soon enough, as part of the 4th ecosystem probably, but let's see if I can shed some light on the issues you pointed out:
- Ceiling hover: This actually already happens, but the maximum jump time is really quite short (0.25s). You can test out the difference on a really low ceiling, but it's very small. Much of the "highest jump" duration is simply due to the speed not getting reduced artificially, which gives it an extra bit of arc while physics runs its course. In the presence of a ceiling, Flora's upwards velocity is effectively 0, so as soon as the jump time is up and physics takes over, she falls. I don't see a practical issue with it currently, but it may change as I explore more responsive alternatives.
- Drop speed cap: This is a fairly arbitrary choice. Drop speed cap would make falling much more controllable, but in exchange Flora would be even more floaty than she is currently. There's a lot more that goes into this than you would guess: size, drag, camera behaviors, gravity and much more all play a part. It's on my list of things to try out, we'll see how it goes when I get around to it.
- Edge grace: Has been pointed out before, and I'm still opposed to it. a big part of why flora seems to "slip" off edges is because the running animation is a placeholder and her feet aren't aligned to anything. New animations will help. Outside of that, there's nothing I will do; if you wait for the very last moment before jumping, that's either a personal choice or an especially hard platforming challenge: both of which are fine and need not get corrected.
- Spikes: Yup, there's a lot of em lol. Most certainly the amount will get reduced as I implement new and more interesting hazards. The "warp" mechanic isn't a 1-hit-kill, it deals some damage and warps you back to the previous checkpoint; by comparison, dying reloads the room. The difference will become more meaningful once the rest of the systems are added. These kind of warping hazards are essential to create challenges that can't simply be endured through, but there's currently no other hazard so I can see why they can get so annoying.
- Warp time: I get the feeling that this feels bothersome simply because every hazard warps you. The warp time, other than allowing animations and fades to play out, is a useful break in the pacing, effectively forcing some degree of "rethink your strategy". The longer the delay, the more effective it is, but also more frustrating. Again, this is an arbitrary decision, and I think the warp animation will probably end up being what determines it.
Thanks again for taking the time to post your feedback, it's super useful and always a pleasure to hear! The game is currently in its infancy, so a lot of systems are missing or lacking, and getting this feedback helps me understand what's going right and what isn't.
I will be making mobile games too at some point, but this isn't one of them. It may look simple enough right now, but it would be a nightmare to play on phone once all the features are implemented
I will be making mobile games too at some point, but this isn't one of them. It may look simple enough right now, but it would be a nightmare to play on phone once all the features are implemented
I'm going for a tiny bit of floaty-ness, VFX will help convey what i'm going for once they are in. I have nothing done for the map yet, I'm considering the advantages and disadvantages of a variety of options.
Unfortunately this month has been really busy so I couldn't do nearly as much progress as I wanted to, I hope to catch up on january and get back on schedule =D
I'll be introducing "status effects" like inflation, infested, corrupted, etc, much later, but you can definitely expect gameplay changes tied to them =P
The cum globe in the HUD serves a different purpose which will be revealed alongside the second Ecosystem release, probably at least 2 months away still
there's no "complete" section, but there is the "in development" tag that's easily visible on the bottom of the thumbnail of games that are still in development ;)
So do I, but the full game won't be compatible, and having the gallery as a standalone would still require a lot of testing and fixing to make it work on android correctly. If in the future there is enough request, I'll consider it, but not any time soon.
the full game won't be playable on android, but the gallery could potentially make sense. If there is enough request for it I'll make it, but not any time soon
A lot more to come in the next weeks and months! if you want to stay updated on the progress of things, come hang out in my Discord server :3 (link above)
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I want to preface this by saying these are the suggestions and not instructions you have to follow. I know you are an artist first and love your work, so please don't take this as me bashing what you already created.
I've not yet played the v0.2.2, but did play the v0.2.1. The platforming feels a bit... wack. I think you simply add upwards momentum to the character when she jumps, but that means that as soon as she hits a ceiling she drops like a rock. It would be better if she stuck to the ceiling for however long it takes for her to reach the top of the jump ark, and then start gaining downward momentum, all while still being able to move left or right. Also not sure if you have a cap on the downwards momentum or not, but you should. And I'm also not sure if you have coyote time (a short period of time after walking (without jumping) off the ground when the jump is still usable), but even if you do it feels very short. And so the character feels like she's slipping off the edges. Which feels especially bad with one hit kill spikes everywhere. You should probably remove those, or at least make the "teleport to safety" animation faster.
I really love what you did already. My own projects never reached even this far, so the shear fact that you have a somewhat playable build of the game is a huge accomplishment! Good luck on creating more!
Thanks for the feedback! In general, I'm planning a pass for all physics behaviors and overall platforming soon enough, as part of the 4th ecosystem probably, but let's see if I can shed some light on the issues you pointed out:
- Ceiling hover: This actually already happens, but the maximum jump time is really quite short (0.25s). You can test out the difference on a really low ceiling, but it's very small. Much of the "highest jump" duration is simply due to the speed not getting reduced artificially, which gives it an extra bit of arc while physics runs its course. In the presence of a ceiling, Flora's upwards velocity is effectively 0, so as soon as the jump time is up and physics takes over, she falls. I don't see a practical issue with it currently, but it may change as I explore more responsive alternatives.
- Drop speed cap: This is a fairly arbitrary choice. Drop speed cap would make falling much more controllable, but in exchange Flora would be even more floaty than she is currently. There's a lot more that goes into this than you would guess: size, drag, camera behaviors, gravity and much more all play a part. It's on my list of things to try out, we'll see how it goes when I get around to it.
- Edge grace: Has been pointed out before, and I'm still opposed to it. a big part of why flora seems to "slip" off edges is because the running animation is a placeholder and her feet aren't aligned to anything. New animations will help. Outside of that, there's nothing I will do; if you wait for the very last moment before jumping, that's either a personal choice or an especially hard platforming challenge: both of which are fine and need not get corrected.
- Spikes: Yup, there's a lot of em lol. Most certainly the amount will get reduced as I implement new and more interesting hazards. The "warp" mechanic isn't a 1-hit-kill, it deals some damage and warps you back to the previous checkpoint; by comparison, dying reloads the room. The difference will become more meaningful once the rest of the systems are added. These kind of warping hazards are essential to create challenges that can't simply be endured through, but there's currently no other hazard so I can see why they can get so annoying.
- Warp time: I get the feeling that this feels bothersome simply because every hazard warps you. The warp time, other than allowing animations and fades to play out, is a useful break in the pacing, effectively forcing some degree of "rethink your strategy". The longer the delay, the more effective it is, but also more frustrating. Again, this is an arbitrary decision, and I think the warp animation will probably end up being what determines it.
Thanks again for taking the time to post your feedback, it's super useful and always a pleasure to hear! The game is currently in its infancy, so a lot of systems are missing or lacking, and getting this feedback helps me understand what's going right and what isn't.
Cheers <3
Please make an Android version, I don't have a PC🙏😢
I will be making mobile games too at some point, but this isn't one of them. It may look simple enough right now, but it would be a nightmare to play on phone once all the features are implemented
Cheers!
please make the android🥺🥺
I will be making mobile games too at some point, but this isn't one of them. It may look simple enough right now, but it would be a nightmare to play on phone once all the features are implemented
Cheers!
Movement is a little floaty.
Also a map would be nice.
Also the art is amazing!
Thank for the feedback!
I'm going for a tiny bit of floaty-ness, VFX will help convey what i'm going for once they are in. I have nothing done for the map yet, I'm considering the advantages and disadvantages of a variety of options.
Unfortunately this month has been really busy so I couldn't do nearly as much progress as I wanted to, I hope to catch up on january and get back on schedule =D
It happens. Holidays are a thing.
Looking forward to more!
if its about cumflaiton i think running should be slow after it
I'll be introducing "status effects" like inflation, infested, corrupted, etc, much later, but you can definitely expect gameplay changes tied to them =P
The cum globe in the HUD serves a different purpose which will be revealed alongside the second Ecosystem release, probably at least 2 months away still
can i have a mega link pls itch.io have token protection and bc of my shity wifi the time the download finished the token already changed 10 time
Unfortunately it takes me too long to upload the game anywhere else and I would not be able to keep it updated. Have you tried using the Itch.io app?
i am gonna try but bc it the same server i think there will still be token protection
amazing art style. I wish you luck on this and any other games you work on in the future
Thank you!
Thank you!
im really happy you are posting again. i cant wait to see what this turns into all the scenes look amazing so far
Don't listen to the whiners, this looks awesome and I can't wait to see what you do with it!
Ty! it will be a while before the next release, but I'm working on it ;)
The discord link in the description is dead-end, by the way.
Damn, thanks for letting me know! trying to figure out what's wrong with it, the code looks right but it is indeed invalid
FUUU*K
the link was still the old one, despite it displaying the new invite >.<
Should be fixed now!
Thanks. ^w^
Bro why itch dont have a "Complete" section smh time wasted
there's no "complete" section, but there is the "in development" tag that's easily visible on the bottom of the thumbnail of games that are still in development ;)
Android?
Check the reply to Anue_4 below*. It's an option for the future, but not a priority right now
its greyed out why?..cant play it
As I say in the description, adventure mode is still in development. It will be coming in the next weeks =D
then how tf are we supposed to play it? xd....why upload the game if you cant play it
The gallery has all my past scenes, it's not much "gameplay" per se, but I thought it would be cool to release them sooner than later =D
Man do I wish this game had an android version.
So do I, but the full game won't be compatible, and having the gallery as a standalone would still require a lot of testing and fixing to make it work on android correctly. If in the future there is enough request, I'll consider it, but not any time soon.
Will you make an Android version?
the full game won't be playable on android, but the gallery could potentially make sense. If there is enough request for it I'll make it, but not any time soon
i had given up, so i am glad to see this released!
A lot more to come in the next weeks and months! if you want to stay updated on the progress of things, come hang out in my Discord server :3 (link above)